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wai-ko-cgp
>你說得沒錯,我犯了很大的毛病,就是把人體比例都拉長了...
受了山崎貴子老師的影響,她是我最愛的漫畫家...不過也是我最不滿意她"拉長比例"的惡慣,
但自己就偏偏學了....唯有努力去改>.<

lemon-po
>三張圖的風格都非常不是一樣,雖然是同一個subject matter...
卻是同一個人畫的...我覺得好神奇呀
第二張很寫實,似音樂家俏像,可能加了shading的關係吧。
第三張似現時的漫畫,比例畫得好靚,把我的眼睛引進去了
不過原諒我~其實我最喜歡第一張
很有童話,fantasy的感覺,哩種畫我一d都唔識畫,加了玫瑰更加華麗~
我跟你剛好相反...小時候覺得繪畫班很貴,參加過一次之後就放棄了,
因為班中人又多,老師教得又求其,又顧唔到咁多學生,學左等於無學。
後來告訴媽媽我以後都不參加這種畫班 是後悔了,不過唔怪得我=.=這是不幸。
不知道你還能不能畫回以前風格呢?(不是叫你放棄現在
我覺得以前的風格也很不錯!

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回應一下希絲卡,其實我覺得把人體比例拉長來畫是沒有問題的,
基本上少女漫畫沒拉長人體比例來畫的人少之又少,就是少年漫畫都動輒9頭身10頭身....
問題是拉長得來是否勻稱,光手長腳長但胴腰頸卻不長(或者相反),都會有怪怪的感覺....
希絲卡一向的人物比例都不會太過份(你看永野護那種....汗),有勻稱到就好~~~~

至於漫畫班,那時是十分好運氣地,碰上了用心的導師,和比我厲害得多的同學,
而且課程完結後,又成立了相關的漫畫小組,那個小組的發展對我以後影響很大哩!!
所以----這方面不說自己運氣好是不行的啦XD XD XD!

至於那三幅圖啊....
最近期那幅反而平平整整,說不上有甚麼特別之處....
第二幅現在來看就是多了很多煩瑣細節,寫實得來很土氣(好像到現在也差不多....汗)!
第一幅想不到希絲卡會喜歡哦!?那種用很樸拙的手法來裝作華麗,其實是很亂來嘛~~~
不過那種"勇往直前(有理無理)"的畫圖態度,可能再也重拾不了哦....

再說,如果要模仿過去的畫法,在某程度上是重塑出想子來,不過只限技術上的.
如果好像第一幅那種毫無技巧的稚拙畫風,要模仿的話只顯造作....
其實就算是畫起昔日的畫風,也多少忍不住會"改良"一下,總會有失真.
(就是說:第二幅要重畫的話,就不會再塗那麼濃的唇膏了XD XD XD XD!)
畢竟技巧和心態等,都跟那時候不一樣了....

既然都貼了第一批,那我又不客氣貼第二批上來玩玩吧!

高中初期的"塗鴉",看到那種鳥爪似的手指.....


十年前左右的"復刻版",整個就是工整有餘,趣味不足啦~~~~


也是上一年的東東,最左手邊的一位被我畫成不男不女了XD XD XD !


希望以後再有機會貼貼對照篇吧~~~~
部落格就這樣子過了10週年:
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看來你畫風的變幅真的很大,會不會是受了漫畫班的影響呢?
很明白吸收更多畫畫知識之後,現在要重拾舊風格是不容易的,
畢竟舊風格就似沒有技巧,手直腳直,沒肌肉骨位可言的圖,
對現在的自己來說,就忍不住去"改良",可是改良過後又是另一風格。
所以...那舊風是不容易保全,也沒有太多人去畫,我才覺得珍貴。
對我而言,舊風格並不是沒有技巧的,其實它能比新風格更加難要掌握。
因為新風格是有道理,有規則的,正因如此,大家的新風格就變得沒差。
而舊風格反而更有特色。
現時大陸的"糖果屋"也很出名,也是沒有骨感可言的風格,不過超可愛~我收集了不少貼紙。
我覺得你那新風&舊風是互相對抗的,各有各的難處,但兩者都是可行的,
就似魔法師&劍士的極端(打機太多唔好意思 ),兩者的相克。

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Kees…… 畫班是有用的。
不過小班形式較理想,至少拿到多一些導師們的attention。
我不少基礎功夫是由畫班那裏學到。
移民後就搞睇書、參考網上tutor和自我摸索來繼續學習。
學無止境,最緊要是唔好輕言放棄。

還有放膽去試新題材和方法~~!

Po,這帖蠻受歡迎呢!歡迎你的加入!!
想不到Po的畫風也在這幾年內加添了不少新的風格!
同一個topic在不同年代有著不同的演譯。

新舊圖的對比我比較少做…… 還是找找。
a.k.a -  Anthony O^O
如果看到我用英文留言, 請使用谷歌翻譯來翻譯。
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Comic: Bait in Dress | Game Sprites: Noah More Heroes, WitchBlaster

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to Anthonyllt:
其實說是最近,也是十年上下的事啦
很多畫風是實驗性的啦~~~~就是未必會用得上啊!!

to 希絲卡:
你的看法也很有見地,特別是這句:
>>因為新風格是有道理,有規則的,正因如此,大家的新風格就變得沒差。而舊風格反而更有特色。
但對我而言,畫東西還是件向前走的事,
所以與其畫出以往的風格,我還是想找些新的可能性哩!!
(找不找到合適的又是另一回事了....汗)
部落格就這樣子過了10週年:
Lemon-Po@Windmills

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終於有空弄畫畫發展史

<手繪發展史>

第一次畫畫的時候應該是小5左右的時候
都是在跟住動畫的人物畫(爆旋陀螺跟數碼暴龍)=v=
還有一堆冒牌貨...跟漫畫....(還有改主題曲的歌詞一 一)
畫好的漫畫會跟同學交換看

(令人懷念的爆旋陀螺)

這些是自製的冒牌遊戲王卡


小學時候的自創人物是這個樣子


到中學的時候,還是一直在畫
記得中一還是中二的德育課,老師要我們畫卡通人物
我便畫了個女除靈師妹妹
那時候我想:不會抽到我吧
誰知道真的叫了我的學號...
畫得不好看,不想拿出去給同學看
天啊~還要介紹那個卡通人物...(臨時作一堆東西出來)


過了一段時間變成這樣

(keroro x rf online )


最近期的是這樣,未完成(送給同學的生日卡-3-)


<電腦繪發展史>
第一次畫電腦繪的時候
是在中一的時候
因為那時候我的哥哥常常畫電腦繪0  0
第一次畫電腦繪的時候真的很高興~
因為手繪都是黑白的,不會用水彩或木顏色等上色-3-
電腦繪就可以亂塗顏色 哈哈0   0

第一張電腦繪

有段時間畫得很頻密
就被我姊罵我天天都在畫畫
被他罵過後便少畫了很多了(傷心)

最近期的電腦繪是聖誕賀圖



<對於畫畫態度的改變>
小時候畫畫就是不會管什麼比例跟透視
閉關亂畫一通,很快就會畫好
可是到中學時期才開始覺得他們很重要
因為不合比例看起來怪怪的
現在畫一幅畫都要花上很久的時候
短則2-3天,長則2星期
因為畫完後第二天再拿出來看的時候又會找到很多不順眼的地方

畫畫速度跟比例還要多多加油呢~~

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To littleaoa:
Thanks for sharing your interesting drawing history.
About making fake game cards, I did that sort of similar stuff as well...
but that for my own mecha. (Now the whole piles of mini cards lost to
somewhere.)

> 記得中一還是中二的德育課,老師要我們畫卡通人物
> 我便畫了個女除靈師妹妹
> ...
> 天啊~還要介紹那個卡通人物...(臨時作一堆東西出來)
Cool... should be a wonderful experience.
I guess you learnt a lot via this event and found out how serious
you could be in doing character background information setting :p

> 因為那時候我的哥哥常常畫電腦繪0  0
Are you able to point out your bro's a/c via our member list?
I wonder who he is as you said he used to post CGs to this forum.

> 最近期的電腦繪是聖誕賀圖
Now I recalled I seemed to have come across but forgot to reply this
Xmas CG. The reindeer boy is about to cast the Xmas girl into next
home gift delivery... by his "God fingers"? Sounds like so... XD
(loli gift)

> <對於畫畫態度的改變>
書到用時方恨少 - this should sum up your findings.

> 因為不合比例看起來怪怪的
> 現在畫一幅畫都要花上很久的時候
> 短則2-3天,長則2星期
> 因為畫完後第二天再拿出來看的時候又會找到很多不順眼的地方
Well, at least you are able to spot the problem areas.
Yeah... it's better to spend more times on drafting before coloring.
This makes the painting process far easier.
I used to draft at least 1 week before finalising line drawing and having
it scanned into computer for coloring.

> 畫畫速度跟比例還要多多加油呢~~
When you practise more, you will get lesser errors and more confidence.
Then your drawing speed will pick up gradually. No need to rush.
Add oil, littleaoa.
a.k.a -  Anthony O^O
如果看到我用英文留言, 請使用谷歌翻譯來翻譯。
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Comic: Bait in Dress | Game Sprites: Noah More Heroes, WitchBlaster

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to Anthonyllt >v<

>>About making fake game cards, I did that sort of similar stuff as well...
but that for my own mecha. (Now the whole piles of mini cards lost to
somewhere.)
童年時都是喜歡弄些無聊的東西~~

>>Are you able to point out your bro's a/c via our member list?
I wonder who he is as you said he used to post CGs to this forum.

my brother is samyu

>>Now I recalled I seemed to have come across but forgot to reply this
Xmas CG. The reindeer boy is about to cast the Xmas girl into next
home gift delivery... by his "God fingers"? Sounds like so... XD
(loli gift)
對呀,
其實那個女孩子只是被鹿男從家中召出來
再被他當作禮物送回女孩子的家

>>Well, at least you are able to spot the problem areas.
Yeah... it's better to spend more times on drafting before coloring.
This makes the painting process far easier.
I used to draft at least 1 week before finalising line drawing and having
it scanned into computer for coloring.
對~畫線稿很花時間(很討厭畫線稿)
在畫線稿的時候已經在想上色的事了
其實我也有試過先畫好骨架再畫人物
可惜這個方法對我來說不管用

>>When you practise more, you will get lesser errors and more confidence.
Then your drawing speed will pick up gradually. No need to rush.
Add oil, littleaoa.
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我覺得littleaoa也算進步得很快,CG技巧方面兩三年間也是脫胎換骨哩!
練骨架也不過是一種方法,讓你畫出來的人物更有說服力,
如果骨架的根基不扎實,很多角度及動作是畫得比較辛苦,
不過也有朋友真是一下筆就畫沒理會骨架甚麼的,算是隨性的做法.
只要畫到自己想要的東西也無妨(當是自娛嘛XDDDD).
部落格就這樣子過了10週年:
Lemon-Po@Windmills

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to lemon-po
>>我覺得littleaoa也算進步得很快,CG技巧方面兩三年間也是脫胎換骨哩!
練骨架也不過是一種方法,讓你畫出來的人物更有說服力,
如果骨架的根基不扎實,很多角度及動作是畫得比較辛苦,
不過也有朋友真是一下筆就畫沒理會骨架甚麼的,算是隨性的做法.
只要畫到自己想要的東西也無妨(當是自娛嘛XDDDD).

我很羨慕(嫉妒)那些不用幾小時就完成一幅很美的畫的人
常常在塗鴉板看到其他人的塗鴉過程
心裡面就一直想
"什麼啊,他是神嗎,草稿也沒畫 ",
"這幅畫給我畫一個月都畫不到那個效果 "
orz

不過畫到自己想要的東西就會滿足這倒是真的
一味羨慕(嫉妒)其他人都是無補於是

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我都係自小就好愛畫畫了...

第一次畫畫時...好像是小二or三吧?
當時好像是因為睇左動畫而不知不覺咁畫起來~
所以自小(小五)就想做漫畫家…((但而家想做動畫cg的插畫 = ="

中一or二時畫了漫畫~ 不過大多是畫了十幾頁之後就唔畫下去了 囧"
有時我畫的漫畫or插畫係有點....不雅的..。///。"
不過而家當然唔會再畫呢d不雅的作品了((苦笑"
到了而家...((6月開始))就買左個繪圖版同pixia, download左photoshop...才開始學畫cg了。
**ps...-->我一直以來都係用鉛筆畫的…直到上個月!

但我一係電腦畫時就…囧"!?     加上我睇左pixiv的網時才發現自己缺點多多…
所以我就發誓!一定要畫到大師級呀~~~~~~!!
要畫多d人以外的東西((風景、背景…

以下是我第一個cg(第二個才是!第一個是之後再改…)

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nagamasa
>自己幾時第一次畫畫都記得!?服~
我以前畫漫畫都是半途而廢的XDDD
現在一樣是XDDD
你的第一張CG畫得不錯了呀@O@~~
起馬頭髮有明顯的深淺色了!
我的第一張不好意思傷他人眼了
現在起好好加油^_~

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畫畫的發展史...
我記得一開始是小2 開始
之後因為沒有朋友或同學有相同興趣所以廢了4年
小六在art 的課堂比同學話美 又開始畫畫
中一 因為online game 和沒有畫畫朋友又廢多3年
我以前畫什麼都廢棄了所以沒有留下...
廢完3-4年 我不太記得為什麼又開始畫 無聊吧~
近日會考完沒有什麼東西做 所以開始 畫cg 有時都會向難度挑戰用滑鼠畫小畫家~

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糖果
>如果真的喜歡畫畫的話,就請不要輕易放棄,不管你曾經荒廢多少年時間,
從現在開始努力,一點都不晚。
我也曾因玩online game而浪費過很多時間,所以決意不再玩了。

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我都知道不好輕易放棄
不過不覺得沒有識得的人有相同興趣是一件很悶的事嗎?
不知其他人有沒有畫出了比以前進步的畫時  會有種滿足感也有小量興奮當中~
   我就是為了依種感覺努力畫畫~~
我現在也開始努力升級中(畫畫方面)  ~ 大家一起向著大師級進軍吧(我依個廢物 不知要過多少個十年呢)~
說起 風景、背景我也沒有練過...

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~糖果~-->

風景、背景我以前也從未畫過..
最近才練習畫的~~

你不要講你是廢物吧..  只要是真心愛畫畫的話,一定會成功的~!!
一起向著大師級進發吧!

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我。。。小学画哥特LOLI,初中还画哥特LOLI,并把小学画得都灭了,(因为很丑)然后就画韩露画风的人。。。。。。本人还谈不上画画史,来错地方了

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溫馨提示: 這個貼本意是讓版友們一邊貼圖,一邊說說自己的進步心得,
所以新來發言的版友們,有圖貼一下是比較好的啊!!

既然也上來了,也再來貼一下新舊對照吧~~~~

在部落格上貼過的圖,一次就看到四個年代的不同畫法了~~~~
沒記錯左邊三個造型是前後相差不過幾年光景,已變化很大了.
最右邊的一幅是上年畫下的,當然是自己最看得順眼啦~~~~
有機會遲點再貼再分享~~~~
部落格就這樣子過了10週年:
Lemon-Po@Windmills

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icy's 2 cents

Let's have a brief introuction of myself I am Icy Hugs, also a HKer but too lazy to learn Chinese typing and most of my time are interacting in English sites like www.deviantart.com and yaoi.y-gallery.net I think the following 2 r the oldest pics I can find now!



And I have my own characters sicne early days, a few of the characters been here over 10 years, may be 14 or 15 years ago Oh dear, I sound so old now

My team is Queer Rangers - Rainbow Cross







and if u r interested in knowing more about my characters, pls feel free to go to http://icyhugs.deviantart.com

I think I started drawing fanart and original characters since 15 years old, finally deceloped my first hero Laurence by the time I was F.4 then the cast of Rainbow Cross changed from fanart characters to original characters

But making fanart once in a while is still a big joy And I mostly make fanart of US superheroes though I also read manga, BL stuff, lol!
Pic01
Pic02

Making Saint Seiya fanart gives me headache!!!
Pic03
Pic04

And this is how the West meets the East

And sometimes, I made pics of social issues and current affairs too!
Pic05
Pic06
Pic07
Pic08

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To littleaoa:
If you practise a lot or draw a particular character frequently,
you basically memorize the 骨架 into your mind and you could really
draw the pic out without one.

Most of the times we only see the outcomes archieved by others but
with no idea how long & how much effort being spent by those
artists to reach that level.
(Of course there are genius types... but their presence is in
minority)

Anyway, if you insist in training your drawing skills, you will
reach that level or higher one day.

> 不過畫到自己想要的東西就會滿足這倒是真的
> 一味羨慕(嫉妒)其他人都是無補於是
That's a nice attitude, littleaoa!


To nagamasa:
> **ps...-->我一直以來都係用鉛筆畫的…直到上個月!

Any chance to see the older pics before you start doing CGs?
It'll be easier to compare.

Even so, I guess your pencil sketches should be quite nice.

> 但我一係電腦畫時就…囧"!?     加上我睇左pixiv的網時才發現自己缺點多多…
> 所以我就發誓!一定要畫到大師級呀~~~~~~!!

If you want to take a more serious appoarch on drawing, you
should refine your pencil shading skills.

Going CG is nice but keeping a constant dosage of pencil sketches
will be useful as well.

> 要畫多d人以外的東西((風景、背景…
Then starting to draw from simple one first.
Wish you all the bests and keep us posting your progress.


To  ~糖果~ :
It's a pity that you didn't keep any past record of your
artworks. Even the crappiest ones I still archived them.

When I was in primary & secondary, not much classmates or
friends around me were keen on drawing. It's lonely but I
didn't give up... instead spending my liesure time to take
weekly drawing courses to sharpen my skills.

I actually kept in contact with HK doujin community after
I went to NZ... Luckily, Internet broke all the physical
distance & boundaries and became an important medium for me
to learn and exhange drawing experience with other fellow
artists around the globe.

Hope you will regain your interests on drawing again after
the prolong HKCEE battle. To keep your motivation on, why not
keep posting new drawings to CG Planet? This is the reason behind
CG Planet - to provide a space for artists to interact with
one another and share their passions on drawing.

> 我現在也開始努力升級中(畫畫方面)  ~ 大家一起向著大師級進軍吧
> (我依個廢物 不知要過多少個十年呢)~
We all have got through the 廢物 stages... as long as you have
your mind set, you will reach the goal. Most importantly, you
have to carry out some actions to allow yourself to get closer
to that goal. Keep going, ~糖果~.

To 上伊莫邪:
> 我。。。小学画哥特LOLI,初中还画哥特LOLI,并把小学画得都灭了,
>(因为很丑)然后就画韩露画风的人。。。。。。本人还谈不上画画史,
> 来错地方了

Though it's a bit short, thank for sharing.
Any chance to see those old pics?

To Lemon Po:
> 在部落格上貼過的圖,一次就看到四個年代的不同畫法了~~~~
> 沒記錯左邊三個造型是前後相差不過幾年光景,已變化很大了.

Wow... quite a dramatic change in style over years.
What he will look like when you draw him again... this year? XD

To icyillustrates:
Thanks for your sharing but let me remind you that this thread
is about sharing your art history, not introducing yourself thread.
So I'm more keen to see old pics related to your drawing history &
keep a few new ones as comparisons. Please refer to the first post
at the first page for details about this thread.

Since some contents are a bit out of topics,I have to turn them
into links. There are some rules on posting in this
particular forum section. Have a look at here if you are not sure.


Deviantart seems to have more fans in overseas than in HK.

It's kind of interesting that you read more US comics than manga.
(Mostly from DC...) I occassionally browse US comics at comic
store, but no particular super hero series following. No wonder
why your artworks show a bit of superhero styles :p

Thanks for sharing.
a.k.a -  Anthony O^O
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